pretendpsychiatrist;
I've read global trans population is anywhere from 2-3% all the way down to .03%. The most common number seems to be .3%. Some places have trans population 15+%. But regardless of the precise percent, it is a small portion of the population. Heart disease is like 1:5, but no one gets offended if people assume you have a healthy heart. Trans people need to be treated with respect, but that doesn't mean treat everyone like they're trans. And thankyou for sticking up for me in that post :3

No problem and thank you.  Population density for certain types of people do vary from place to place.  People are making ridiculous nit-picky arguments instead of understanding the gist of what we’re saying.

Anonymous;
In that long drawn out hot air shit storm with time-doesnt-wait-for-me, they stated that feminism fought for rights to vote.... If I remember my history correctly, suffragettes fought for that right and were a separate group from feminists. Of course I admit that my own memory of it may be off. And I'm sure time-doesnt-wait-for-me has another bullshit argument that'd probably not even pay attention to any single facet of the topic.

Right.  Let’s also remember that men of the time also weren’t allowed to vote if they didn’t own land.  Which suggests, correct me if I’m mistaken, that maybe women were restricted from voting because they didn’t own land back then either.

wtfantisjws:

For the record, yes, I do agree that we should not pick on (even if we might still call out) nice anti-SJWs. However, this then raises the question of what exactly qualifies someone as being an anti-SJW - as opposed to someone who is overall sympathetic to the SJW side but occasionally criticizes certain factions of the community.

Also, yes, I also agree that this should not be a case of “SJW vs anti-SJW” - but, rather, a case of “decent person vs asshole”. It’s just that the self-identified anti-SJW types usually enjoy mocking SJWs for “shits and giggles”, rather than merely pointing out issues that they have with the community.

So that’s that. Also, I do apologize for cluttering your dash up with these lengthy posts. We are working on resolving that, for future reference.

~ Sera

what identifies one as an anti-sjw…. they say, “I consider myself anti-SJW.” usually they will say they’re in favor of social justice, but against people who consider themselves “warriors” for social justice as those types of people tend to be misguided.  Others will simply say they’re anti-social justice and pro-real justice…as they seem to perceive “social justice” to just mean going around telling people that they have to be politically correct all the time.

I’m in the former camp, I perceive social justice to simply mean everyone in society is treated justly.

I guess you’ll find it hypocritical then that I also consider myself one of those who enjoys mocking SJW types for shits and giggles.  Because I don’t think mocking or making fun of someone is a grave injustice.  Certainly bullying is bad, but I don’t consider simply “laughing at” someone or “making fun of” someone once or twice to be on the same level as what I traditionally consider “bullying.” (That would be repeated harassment that extends beyond a single social media platform or outside of the internet into their real life affairs)

I don’t think “mocking someone” and “insulting them” quite the same thing.  Yes, mocking is often insulting…but it’s not the same as cursing them out, if you catch my meaning.  You can poke fun of what people say that you find foolish without being cruel to them, and I don’t find it hypocritical that I do that.  So really I don’t see how you seem to think I’m “not nice to nice SJWs.”

(Also, someone brought up a good point.  What constitutes a nice SJW?  Someone who believes whites are the worst thing to happen to the world but doesn’t want all white people to be exterminated?  Someone who thinks men are all potential and future rapists but doesn’t wanna eugenically exterminate all men?  I mean where do you draw the line between fundamentalist activism and niceness?

Anonymous;
Trans people are like 1 to >1 percent of the population (depending on the study). Non binary trans people are a fraction of that fraction. Just going off statistics, if someone looks like a woman, you've got pretty good odds of guessing correctly that they're a woman.

vangoghsdaughter:

cloudplusone:

sjwstupidity:

Okay one study I looked at estimated 2% to 5% but that might’ve been global population, I dunno.  But yes, the harm isn’t in making an erroneous assumption of gender.  It’s failing to respect their pronouns when corrected.

Or you could just not assume their gender. Some people can’t correct you, and misgendering gives them a lot of dysphoria.

Plus 1-5% is actually still millions of people. It’s 1-5 out of every 100 people you meet.

I’m pretty sure in real life population distrubtion doesn’t exactly work like that.  You’ll get more of X in one area, and more of Y in another area.  People can go their whole life without ever meeting a transgender person in person.

And I’m well aware 5% is still millions of people, it doesn’t justify insisting that we should ask every person we meet “are you a guy/girl.”  Because I’m awkward enough about meeting women without having the anxiety of how to clarify she’s a she without getting slapped in the face.

gryffindorgeek7777:

mad-piper-with-a-box:

thetomska:

giddytf2:

the-last-teabender:

Robin Thicke is unapologetic about how rapey ‘Blurred Lines’ is, meanwhile the dude who parodied it issues a public apology for one word.

And that is just one reason why I love Weird Al.

It’s great that he’s addressed this but are we really supposed to believe that NO ONE during the extremely lengthy processes of writing a song, recording it, mastering it and animating the music video wouldn’t have brought it up?

Excuse me but how the hell is spastic even remotely insulting?

So I just recently learned that in the UK calling someone spastic means the same thing as calling someone retarded, only much worse.
If it makes people in the UK feel any better, people in the US literally do not know this (like literally no one I have ever met and/or know). Here being spastic is usually meant to mean something along the lines of acting like a hyper-active child (like running around in circles yelling just because they feel like it please be quiet for just 2 minutes type of child). NOBODY here uses it as a slur.
Since Weird Al is a US musician and the US music industry is pretty non-international, yeah actually I think its entirely possible that none of the people who worked on this song actually knew that spastic was considered an awful slur in some parts of the world.
And I’m like 99.9999% sure that Weird Al is genuinely very sorry that he was accidentally offensive.

Just gonna point out to the-last-teabender that Robin Thicke being unapologetic about Blurred Lines being rapey makes since, being that Blurred Lines is only rapey if you really really wanna interpret it that way and was never intended as such.  So you don’t have to like Robin Thicke but you should probably stop beating that dead horse.
Anyway, Weird Al is a genuinely nice person from everything I hear and I greatly admire him with or without this tweet.

gryffindorgeek7777:

mad-piper-with-a-box:

thetomska:

giddytf2:

the-last-teabender:

Robin Thicke is unapologetic about how rapey ‘Blurred Lines’ is, meanwhile the dude who parodied it issues a public apology for one word.

And that is just one reason why I love Weird Al.

It’s great that he’s addressed this but are we really supposed to believe that NO ONE during the extremely lengthy processes of writing a song, recording it, mastering it and animating the music video wouldn’t have brought it up?

Excuse me but how the hell is spastic even remotely insulting?

So I just recently learned that in the UK calling someone spastic means the same thing as calling someone retarded, only much worse.

If it makes people in the UK feel any better, people in the US literally do not know this (like literally no one I have ever met and/or know). Here being spastic is usually meant to mean something along the lines of acting like a hyper-active child (like running around in circles yelling just because they feel like it please be quiet for just 2 minutes type of child). NOBODY here uses it as a slur.

Since Weird Al is a US musician and the US music industry is pretty non-international, yeah actually I think its entirely possible that none of the people who worked on this song actually knew that spastic was considered an awful slur in some parts of the world.

And I’m like 99.9999% sure that Weird Al is genuinely very sorry that he was accidentally offensive.

Just gonna point out to the-last-teabender that Robin Thicke being unapologetic about Blurred Lines being rapey makes since, being that Blurred Lines is only rapey if you really really wanna interpret it that way and was never intended as such.  So you don’t have to like Robin Thicke but you should probably stop beating that dead horse.

Anyway, Weird Al is a genuinely nice person from everything I hear and I greatly admire him with or without this tweet.

Anonymous;
Trans people are like 1 to >1 percent of the population (depending on the study). Non binary trans people are a fraction of that fraction. Just going off statistics, if someone looks like a woman, you've got pretty good odds of guessing correctly that they're a woman.

cloudplusone:

pretendpsychiatrist:

cloudplusone:

sjwstupidity:

Okay one study I looked at estimated 2% to 5% but that might’ve been global population, I dunno.  But yes, the harm isn’t in making an erroneous assumption of gender.  It’s failing to respect their pronouns when corrected.

Or you could just not assume their gender. Some people can’t correct you, and misgendering gives them a lot of dysphoria.

If your social dysphoria is really that bad, please seek resources to help you whether it’s formal therapy or online advice from other trans people

If you’re genuinely concerned about triggering dysphoria, would you really go up to a transwoman, whose finally gaining some confidence that she can pass, and ask her if she is a woman and what her preferred pronouns are?  Or how about going up to a transman who’s finally gotten approved for HRT and ask him if he’s a man and what his preferred pronouns are? Because I can assure you, both of those cases would be devastating for the trans individuals involved

I’m going to go out on a limb and I’m guessing you’re okay in assuming someone isn’t schizophrenic.  Or that they don’t have a nut allergy.  Or that their thyroid function is normal.  All of these are fine things to assume, just like how it’s fine to assume someone isn’t transgender, because people with these medical conditions are in the minority of the population

I get it.  It fucking sucks to have someone assume your gender based on things you can’t control.  But you also need to realize that for most people, their sex and gender match.  It’s not a rude thing to assume just how it’s not rude to assume that someone isn’t anemic

Or you could not be a cissexist asshole and not assume people’s gender.

Also fuck off nobody asked you.

Assuming gender is kind of the cornerstone of most romantic/sexual relationships.  Person A goes up to Person B because they appear to be the gender they’re attracted to and they begin the courting process.  If Person B is in favor, they start dating or whatever…and generally one’s gender is only brought up if the person is trans and they need to break it to the other party before surprising them upon getting physically intimate.

There’s nothing cissexist about that.

And yeah, nobody asked pretendpsychiatrist, so what?  nobody asked you either, and you felt comfortable commenting on my post.  nice job being a hypocrite.

punwitch:

modestmojo:

punwitch:

modestmojo:

punwitch:

Cis people are so gullible. A doctor basically gave a quick glance at your junk before you were even old enough to communicate and you think that’s the best gauge of your gender? Sad.

This is probably the dumbest post I’ve ever seen

I dunno if you’re a good judge of “stupid posts” when you think a doctor’s quick glance at someone’s junk is the best source of gender lmao

Nah your post dumb and maybe we should let newborn babies determine their genders fresh out the womb that seems smart

Oh gosh you’re right, it’s totally a binary between “let a tiny baby make a decision” and “let an overworked tired doctor glance at tiny genitalia or even flip a coin to decide”. There’s no other options possible, only those two. Only two choices available. It’s like Mass Effect. You can only be a Renegade Or a Paragon.

Thank you, wise friend, for helping me with your wisdom. <3

Doctors determine a child’s SEX because in a lot of areas of medical science, knowing an individuals biological sex is imperative to administering appropriate medical treatments.  I dunno why don’t you ask a doctor why they determine a child’s sex.

And I love how your dumbass thinks gender identity is a choice…do you even have dysphoria?  I’d think you’d understand it better if you did.  You transphobic piece of shit.

btw don’t worry I’m not cis I’m a trans-cat I’m going to sneak into your house and piss on all your furniture while you’re sleeping then sneak back out.

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wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

Seriously, how exactly are the anti-SJW crew gonna argue against us tone policing them without contradicting themselves? “If you need us to be nice to you in order for you to take us seriously, then you were just a shitty ally to begin with”? Uh… yeah, I guess I am a “shitty ally” to anti-SJWs - considering that I’m not an ally to them to begin with!!

~ Sera

It seems you fail to differentiate between “not being a massive cunt for no reason” and “being nice.”

Like, you think SJWs are entitled to call people names for being white/male/cis/hetero and people can’t say “I’m not gonna listen to what you have to say if all you can do is fucking insult me” because wow that’s hypocritical, they made fun of an “I need Feminism because” sign once before.  What? 

It’s not even the same fucking paradigm. Anti-SJWs aren’t asking you to be an “ally.” We’re asking you not to be bigoted fucking asswipes who make excuses for discriminating against people based on features they cannot control. We’re asking you to understand that discrimination is bad even without an element of oppression.

You fail to perceive nuance and you’re just pushing the same exact argument even though your flaws in reasoning have been highlighted to you numerous times.

Now you’re just behaving like a jackass.

"not to be bigoted fucking asswipes who make excuses for discriminating against people based on features they cannot control."

Once again, I am not one of those SJWs who do that. If you have a problem with that type of attitude, then take it up with them!! You’re using the fact that some SJWs can be quite brutal and abrasive as an excuse to mock all SJWs, even the nice ones who don’t what you just described there.

~ Sera

I’m not accusing you of being one of those SJWs…I’m accusing you of making a strawman out of the anti-sjws who “tone police.”  We do take it up with them.

Actually wait, didn’t one of your mods just yesterday argue in favor of dismissing male emotions based on the belief that men aren’t oppressed for being male.  (Even though 66% longer prison sentences, a lack of support for male victims of rape and domestic violence, higher suicide rate, higher rate of victimization from random acts of violence, family court bias, lack of resources for economically impaired fathers to negotiate child support payments they can no longer possibly afford).

I mean if you’re going to argue against men’s emotions mattering on the basis of whether or not you believe oppression is a factor then you can fuck right off trying to tell me you’re not one of those types of SJWs.

Since I’m not the mod who made that post, I can’t speak for them - but I highly doubt that they were trying to say that male emotions don’t matter. Personally, I like a man who’s not afraid to cry - and I was never fond of the term “male tears”.

The bottom line is, you anti-SJWs who make fun of SJWs (even the nice ones who don’t do that stuff that you mentioned) are just as bad as the SJWs who do those things - since both you lot and that faction of the SJW community think people don’t have to be nice. It’s the whole “horseshoe theory” in effect. Both and them make up excuses for why you don’t have to be nice.

~ Sera

Literally all you’ve got on me is that I reblogged a post teasing people who expect feminism to fix a bunch of inconsequential shit like friends laughing at them for participating in a trend about feminism, and the obscure crime of “stare rape.”  Which, btw, that last is probably in many instances quite ableist if you think about it…as it’s very common for mentally handicapped people to stare at someone else with no concept of how the person being stared at is feeling.  And literally all that feminist can think is “omg is he going to follow me into a dark alley and try to rape me?!”

So yes, I laughed along with the rest because people holding up signs saying “I need feminism because <minor shit>.”  Please explain to me how that’s as bad as saying shit like “[on mocking the male ego] I can’t speak for everyone, but most of us do it because it’s fucking hilarious.” -tumblr user catthatwalkedbyherself.

You’re literally arguing that, not only can I not make fun of people for traits they cannot change, as that would obviously make me a hypocrite, but as an addendum, I also cannot mock someone’s ideas or reasoning either…which I never condemned.  I wasn’t laughing at those “I need feminism” posters because they were feminists and I “just don’t like feminists.”  I was laughing at them because their reasons for “needing feminism” were silly.  I’m completely fine with people identifying as feminists as long as they’re alright individuals.  I even follow a few self-identified feminists.

So again, your logic doesn’t jibe.  You’re literally suggesting that I give the nice SJWs special treatment that I don’t even give other anti-sjws.

No, simply put, this is what I’m saying: MOCK THE ASSHOLES AND ONLY THE ASSHOLES!! Leave the nice SJWs alone, and pick on only the asshole ones.

And what about the anti-sjws who say stupid, ignorant shit but are otherwise nice?  Oh we don’t care about them because they’re not part of our group.

Fuck you, if you say ridiculous shit, you get called out.  If you have a ridiculous stance, your stance gets mocked to indicate the ridiculousness of your stance.  If I say, oh I dunno, maybe “you can’t learn stuff from watching television” or something.  I’d understand people mocking me saying “oh right, the History channel doesn’t exist.  The travel channel doesn’t exist.  Documentaries don’t exist.  And even if they get some of their info slightly wrong, well I couldn’t possibly supplement that learning with fact checking online or in books to further explore the new knowledge they introduced me to.  Oh no no no!”

I mean, just because I foolishly assume people can’t gain knowledge from watching TV, that doesn’t mean I’m not a nice person…but whether I’m a nice person or not doesn’t change the fact that I said something ignorant and people aren’t going to coddle you and bite their tongues for fear of hurting your precious little feelings.  No, they’re going to make fun of you for being foolish.  And if you have the strength of character to fucking get over it, then we can still be friends afterward and I’ll admit “Yeah I said something ignorant, haha, you got me!”

Basically right now in this whole argument you’re being really whiny.  Meanness or rudeness isn’t the only thing you can mock.  Fuck off.

If you’re gonna tell SJWs to be nice (which, BTW, I actually agree with), then you anti-SJWs should be nice, too. If you don’t want SJWs to insult other people (something that I also agree with), then anti-SJWs also shouldn’t insult other people. Fair is fair, you know.

~ Sera

How are you so fucking stupid you’re not comprehending the thing I’ve said probably 5 or 6 times now?  It has nothing to do with being an SJW or Anti-SJW as to whether or not I make fun of you.  It literally only has to do with if you’re saying something stupid.  Your need to turn this into an anti-sjw vs sjw thing suggests that you’re too fucking delicate to have ideas you agree with mocked.  That’s being “not nice” in your eyes and people must stop it at all costs!  Otherwise you’ll go back to the radical SJW camp you miss so much and start calling all cis people scum and saying men should be eugenically reduced to like 2% of the population and kept alive for breeding only.

I know you didn’t literally say that but that’s the attitude you give off, like this is some kind of fucking ransom.

I’ve said it almost a dozen times and I’ll say it again…I don’t discriminate against people based on features they cannot change, but I will not be told not to mock people for stupid ideas in their head.  If you can’t tell me “be nice to nice anti-sjws” then don’t tell me to be nice to nice sjws.  And even if you tell me to be nice to both, even when they say shit I find ridiculous, I’ll still tell you to fuck off because how do people ever expect to grow as people if we’re expected to coddle ignorance?

I swear to god if you respond one more time with “be nice to nice SJWs thooo” bullshit…

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wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

sjwstupidity:

wtfantisjws:

Seriously, how exactly are the anti-SJW crew gonna argue against us tone policing them without contradicting themselves? “If you need us to be nice to you in order for you to take us seriously, then you were just a shitty ally to begin with”? Uh… yeah, I guess I am a “shitty ally” to anti-SJWs - considering that I’m not an ally to them to begin with!!

~ Sera

It seems you fail to differentiate between “not being a massive cunt for no reason” and “being nice.”

Like, you think SJWs are entitled to call people names for being white/male/cis/hetero and people can’t say “I’m not gonna listen to what you have to say if all you can do is fucking insult me” because wow that’s hypocritical, they made fun of an “I need Feminism because” sign once before.  What? 

It’s not even the same fucking paradigm. Anti-SJWs aren’t asking you to be an “ally.” We’re asking you not to be bigoted fucking asswipes who make excuses for discriminating against people based on features they cannot control. We’re asking you to understand that discrimination is bad even without an element of oppression.

You fail to perceive nuance and you’re just pushing the same exact argument even though your flaws in reasoning have been highlighted to you numerous times.

Now you’re just behaving like a jackass.

"not to be bigoted fucking asswipes who make excuses for discriminating against people based on features they cannot control."

Once again, I am not one of those SJWs who do that. If you have a problem with that type of attitude, then take it up with them!! You’re using the fact that some SJWs can be quite brutal and abrasive as an excuse to mock all SJWs, even the nice ones who don’t what you just described there.

~ Sera

I’m not accusing you of being one of those SJWs…I’m accusing you of making a strawman out of the anti-sjws who “tone police.”  We do take it up with them.

Actually wait, didn’t one of your mods just yesterday argue in favor of dismissing male emotions based on the belief that men aren’t oppressed for being male.  (Even though 66% longer prison sentences, a lack of support for male victims of rape and domestic violence, higher suicide rate, higher rate of victimization from random acts of violence, family court bias, lack of resources for economically impaired fathers to negotiate child support payments they can no longer possibly afford).

I mean if you’re going to argue against men’s emotions mattering on the basis of whether or not you believe oppression is a factor then you can fuck right off trying to tell me you’re not one of those types of SJWs.

Since I’m not the mod who made that post, I can’t speak for them - but I highly doubt that they were trying to say that male emotions don’t matter. Personally, I like a man who’s not afraid to cry - and I was never fond of the term “male tears”.

The bottom line is, you anti-SJWs who make fun of SJWs (even the nice ones who don’t do that stuff that you mentioned) are just as bad as the SJWs who do those things - since both you lot and that faction of the SJW community think people don’t have to be nice. It’s the whole “horseshoe theory” in effect. Both and them make up excuses for why you don’t have to be nice.

~ Sera

Literally all you’ve got on me is that I reblogged a post teasing people who expect feminism to fix a bunch of inconsequential shit like friends laughing at them for participating in a trend about feminism, and the obscure crime of “stare rape.”  Which, btw, that last is probably in many instances quite ableist if you think about it…as it’s very common for mentally handicapped people to stare at someone else with no concept of how the person being stared at is feeling.  And literally all that feminist can think is “omg is he going to follow me into a dark alley and try to rape me?!”

So yes, I laughed along with the rest because people holding up signs saying “I need feminism because <minor shit>.”  Please explain to me how that’s as bad as saying shit like “[on mocking the male ego] I can’t speak for everyone, but most of us do it because it’s fucking hilarious.” -tumblr user catthatwalkedbyherself.

You’re literally arguing that, not only can I not make fun of people for traits they cannot change, as that would obviously make me a hypocrite, but as an addendum, I also cannot mock someone’s ideas or reasoning either…which I never condemned.  I wasn’t laughing at those “I need feminism” posters because they were feminists and I “just don’t like feminists.”  I was laughing at them because their reasons for “needing feminism” were silly.  I’m completely fine with people identifying as feminists as long as they’re alright individuals.  I even follow a few self-identified feminists.

So again, your logic doesn’t jibe.  You’re literally suggesting that I give the nice SJWs special treatment that I don’t even give other anti-sjws.

No, simply put, this is what I’m saying: MOCK THE ASSHOLES AND ONLY THE ASSHOLES!! Leave the nice SJWs alone, and pick on only the asshole ones.

And what about the anti-sjws who say stupid, ignorant shit but are otherwise nice?  Oh we don’t care about them because they’re not part of our group.

Fuck you, if you say ridiculous shit, you get called out.  If you have a ridiculous stance, your stance gets mocked to indicate the ridiculousness of your stance.  If I say, oh I dunno, maybe “you can’t learn stuff from watching television” or something.  I’d understand people mocking me saying “oh right, the History channel doesn’t exist.  The travel channel doesn’t exist.  Documentaries don’t exist.  And even if they get some of their info slightly wrong, well I couldn’t possibly supplement that learning with fact checking online or in books to further explore the new knowledge they introduced me to.  Oh no no no!”

I mean, just because I foolishly assume people can’t gain knowledge from watching TV, that doesn’t mean I’m not a nice person…but whether I’m a nice person or not doesn’t change the fact that I said something ignorant and people aren’t going to coddle you and bite their tongues for fear of hurting your precious little feelings.  No, they’re going to make fun of you for being foolish.  And if you have the strength of character to fucking get over it, then we can still be friends afterward and I’ll admit “Yeah I said something ignorant, haha, you got me!”

Basically right now in this whole argument you’re being really whiny.  Meanness or rudeness isn’t the only thing you can mock.  Fuck off.